Ok my first major gripe with eve.
Grinding sodding security status.
Who the sodding hell thought up this mechanic! For those un-familiar with it, the only way to gain sec status is by killing NPC rats, fair enough. And the amount of sec status gained depends on the type of rat and the security level ,of the system you are in …unfair to those in low sec as opposed to 0.0 but I can see the thinking there..but WHY THE FUCK only count 1 every 15 mins!! You can gill 50 rats in 1 system if you like but only the highest one will count per 15 mins…this means you have to keep moving systems after each kill looking for another belt with a semi decent rat to kill.
This means you spend twic as long moving around as if you could just move belts killing them..STUPID IDEA!
Next on my grip list, the amount of sec status gained is CRAP and there is no way round it, when you are dropping sec status you can kill a pod and drop like 2.3 off your rating, which means a drop to -10 is quite rapid, gaining it however there are no big hits, the rats I have been killing:
Frigates = 0.02- 0.04 sec gain
Cruisers = 0.04 – 0.075 sec gain
Battleships (rare) 0.06 – 0.12 sec gain
A massive difference! if I can pod some one to drop 2.3 or some thing I SHOULD be able to gain at a similar rate for some action, but as it stands I can rat for an hour and make the wondrous gain of about .15 …
Now some may think I am being unreasonable expecting to be able to come back to high sec reasonably fast, however, the game is now stopping me playing the part of the game I want to be playing.
Its not a case of improving for profit, a large area of the game is not available to me and wont be for quite a while, by my guess about a month. That’s if I rat every day. Constantly.
It almost make you want to quit..almost.
One of my friends came up with a alternative solution that may work better, a bribe to concord, working along the same principals as a nural remap it has a year long cool down and would be expensive ish (50 mill say) but once a year you could have a standings reset with concord. This would enable those with low ratings to return to high sec but wouldn’t be often enough to really help greifers. This would make the game far better in my opinion.
/rant over
I hear ya. I've been there and done that too many times, and it's a bloody pain. You do the crime you do the time :P
ReplyDeleteJust try and chill out and watch a movie while you're ratting and it should make things easier. Good luck with it!
You only get the big sec status hit for podding people and how much fun is that really? The fun is in blowing up the other guys ship. So stop podding people and you'll have to do the sec grind a lot less.
ReplyDeleteYou reap what you sow.
ReplyDeleteCry moar, pirate scum.
ReplyDeleteI have a better way of gaining sec status: Target paint rats that don't belong to you, while you go around in a mission runner's mission, and steal/salvage. When the rats pop, you get sec status increases, too.
ReplyDeleteWhen you signed up to be a pirate and they asked you, "Are you okay with going to -10?" you probably just said "Yeah!" and didnt think any more of it. I'd be willing to bet a bil on it.
ReplyDeleteAnd you call carebears "crybabies"?
ReplyDeleteRedemption is never equal to the sin my friend.
ReplyDeleteAt least go some place with good bounty mate and make some ISK.
Cheers
EVE SOB
Heh start a new toon ;)
ReplyDeleteYeah, gonna have to agree with others on this one. I would say the best solution to your plight would be not to pod. It takes extra effort (locking, pointing, destroying) to pop it anyway. If you absolutely HAVE to pod, expect to reap the consequences. Podding isn't popping ships, and Sec hits are meant to prevent you from podding. There are plenty of financial problems if I get podded: loss of implants, repurchasing a clone and obviously the loss of the ship...why should the consequences be less for you? Don't whine when you do something wrong and you are barred from a section of the game. Just don't do it. Problem solved.
ReplyDeleteI totally understand ya pain and frustration with the small gains even for those rare battleships when trying to claw your way back from a life of crime. I was doing the same thing to be able to join the white rabbits in high sec operations but decided to stay flashy red as it was too bloody painfull jumping from system to system hunting those elusive rats. Good luck with the long slog.
ReplyDeleteThe system exists for exactly the reasons you complain about - to make podding in hisec or lowsec painful.
ReplyDeleteEve has consequences. Welcome to yours.
and he didnt think about it before...
ReplyDeleteso dumb, it hurts
Ok just to clarify for tha masses, im not poddin anyone anymore, or even attackong them, only rats.
ReplyDeleteHavent been for a few days.
The the bitter carebears leaving hate posts, you make me smile.
And im not starting a new toon, i can do the time just didnt realise it took that long to repair.
Fuck the status hit, ALWAYS pod them if they don't pay the ransom. The gloating on here amuses me no end, although they have a point. I am happy to pod as many people as are stupid enough to be caught by me, and as I have no intention of ever trying to raise my sec status, it's no big deal to me.
ReplyDeleteAstral still doesn't get it. Pod away if you like but stop the bitch tears when it comes back to bite you in the arse.
ReplyDeleteAll I see is lovely tears. 'oh noes, the game is sooooo unfair, why doesn't it do what I want it to do'
Can't say I can sympathise Astral. You decided to go outlaw in the first place, don't see why it should be easy for you to get into highsec again. It's designed to make lowsec and highsec ganking/podding painful. Welcome to the pain.
ReplyDeleteBesides, going straight is always harder than getting into crime.
Oh yeah, on that bribery idea.. wouldn't that make the whole outlaw thing pointless? Outlaw status is supposed to ban you from highsec (EVE on hard-mode etc etc). What's the point of that if you can pay a relatively small amount to completely erase it?
ReplyDeleteYou shoot at a ninja?
That has consequences.
Get your ore back out of a can-flippers can?
That has consequences.
Hauling through lowsec?
That has consequences.
Shouldn't going outlaw also have consequences? (From an RP standpoint. Its not as if the sec status updater guy at concord would advertise that he's open to bribery.. not if he wants to keep is job, anyway)
It goes in circles mate. Takes you a month to lift your security status but it probably took many of the traders you popped a few weeks to get back to where they were before you clicked a mouse button!
ReplyDeleteI think it's great you have to do the time in EVE. It ensures new players aren't smacked in mid sec by guys going flashy red, then killing rats for an hour to recover their sec status. And for the record - $50 mill isn't expensive. You've spent far too little time making money the honest way if you think it is. If you're not making millions whilst you sleep or spend time with your family (ie when offline) you're doing something wrong